Only Way Hillary Clinton Can Win Democratic Nomination
There is a way that the Clinton forces can secure the Democratic Party nomination. It is not the way that the party regulars would like to see this long fought primary race be decided. But it could happen. The forces that see victory as the only end result will destroy the party just to see Hillary Clinton made the nominee. It is a shortsighted and ruthless way to play politics when there are many reasons to unite the party, and fight the GOP in November. But there are ways Hillary Clinton could prevail. It is not pretty. If implemented it would rip the party in two.
Taegan Goddard writes the story.
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So many caucus goers will feel so disenfranchised if they screw with the popular vote and Hillary gets the nod. She’s being bull headed and not party oriented right now. One can’t help but place her in the Bush category of sore loser. We don’t need a 2-for with Bill as the albatrosses around her neck. The label as White House Laddie is not his style.
I agree with you Marion. Right now, the Clinton campaign is indistinguishable from the Bush/Rove gang.
Its not over to the fat lady sings!!
I don’t see it that way. It’s Obama who is singing bipartisanship. I am a Democrat and I want a Democrat in office, not a fence sitter. But it’s kind of interesting to read these debates. I see Obama as way more similar to Bush (outsider, bipartisan, likeable (arguably)), but lots of others see Clinton as like Bush.
What I want to know is, when it’s a Democrat vs. McCain, who takes CA, TX, OH, NY, FL, MI, PA, MA–the states with the electoral college votes–who wins? Because the popular votes doesn’t matter in the general election as we well learned in 2000.
Indistinguishable from Bush/Rove? I’m not a Clinton supporter but that seems a bit harsh.
Actually, Ted, if what’s suspected about her involvement in the NAFTA smear is correct, she’s more than willing to pull a Rove: http://phoenixwoman.wordpress.com/2008/03/06/curiouser-and-curiouser/
Indistinguishable from Bush/Rove? I’m not a Clinton supporter but that seems a bit harsh.
I wasn’t even aware of the Canadian pretzel. I was talking about this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHFREDHB-nQ
This is it a party that will be torn apart!!! How sad if she prevails..I will not vote for her I do not care!!!!
Who wants a white racist in office. I’m a democrat but I will vote for McCain before Obama!!!
You can’t tell me that Obama went to Wright’s church for 20 years, Wright married him and his wife, baptised his kids, Wright was Obama’s spiritual mentor and in his campaign and Obama never knew what his beliefs on things were… I smell a RAT and I am not voting for him no matter what…
Things are quite simple. Obama is not electable - he cannot win the battleground states required to defeat McCain. He thinks he can win the necessary states but he is only kidding himself. History has proven what I am saying and history will be repeated. How is the democratic party going to feel if they give Obama the nomination very well knowing he can’t win the general election and he loses to McCain? The democratic party will look like absolute fools. Bill Clinton will say “I told you so”. Bill Clinton will be right and everyone will hate him because he will have shown he was smarter than all the other democrats put together.
What the heck makes you people think that McCain will even come close to winning? I have a feeling that if Obama is given the nomination, that the election will be similar to the FDR era elections… with McCain only winning a very select few states. I mean, there are states that have voters who are not aware of any issues, they just like the color red… I know, I used to be one of them… but, I don’t think the actual election will be as much of a challenge as the primary election has been. Heck, either way, it is going to be a democrat in office. And if you fools think that a religious figure determines a person’s thoughts… well what about the teachers that all three candidates had growing up? Maybe we should search them out and see what radical views they had that could have entered the still developing minds of Hillary, John, and Barack. As long as Obama is not saying it, then I could honestly care less, and so should you.
Yes, Hillary Clinton suffers from ED (excessive dishonesty), but there are promising new treatments. However, should the Bill & Hillary show play through June, as she predicts, it could damage the DNC, to put it mildly. As Howard Dean is beginning to suspect, Hillary could run the party asunder. I hoped Pennsylvanians would send the Clintons a clear edict; take the money, and leave ‘em laughing – but they didn’t. Well, the facts are still the facts. And, there’s a strong case to be made against Hillary Clinton; trouble is, nobody’s making it. Hillary has long treated working class Americans as a species apart. I’ll skip the lecture, but ignore this at your own peril: http://theseedsof9-11.com
If Hillary Clinton does not win the nomination for President, then the Democrats will lose in November. Period.
Obama is not able to really stop her. She takes the big states that matter in an election re: electoral college. Obama has taken more states, but most of those will go to McCain in the general election. There are a lot of Republicans who are switching parties temporarily to vote for Obama in the primaries because they know McCain will have an easier time beating him in November. This is pumping up Obama’s wins with false statistics. Hillary is the only one who can possibly beat McCain. Her dirty laundry has already been aired years ago. Obama’s is just starting to come out — and in “swift boat” fashion, Obama will get slammed in the general election. The DNC knows this but because they are stuck — they don’t know how to “fix this.” The easiest way has been for Democrat Big Wigs to plead for Hillary to step down. The DNC is strongly concerned about the repercussions to the party if Hillary takes the nomination because they are worried about race riots. It’s like the DNC would rather pick Obama, the candidate who will surely lose, than have African Americans upset with them. I think it is a mistake by the DNC. They have to see that Obama can not possibly win — Pennsylvania clearly showed that last night with Hillary taking yet another of the BIG states even with the Obama campaign outspending her 3 to 1. I know if Hillary is not given the presidential nomination, I will definitely vote for McCain. McCain is a “mild” conservative — a moderate and has very little in common with Bush. I will never vote for Obama — no experience, embellishes his past all the time, doesn’t know how to answer questions directly without “dancing all around the topic”, lies about his past associations, has been too chummy with people of questionable character (and the Republicans haven’t even begun to expose all of the details)and the negatives go on and on. Also, anyone who does voluntarily attend an anti-American, anti-white church with associations with the Farakhan church and helped Farakhan with the million man march, is not someone I want leading my Nation. There has to be some of that anti-American, anti-white (what a slap in the face to his mother and grandparents who stayed by him and raised him), and anti-semite inside Obama. He is a questionable character. He can not be elected. If not Hillary, then it is definitely McCain.
I think that the biggest fear for America right now is if a Republican wins President. Both the Obama and Clinton campaign are doing things that isnt needed. Its politics get over it, you do what you have too to win!
But this is the real test. if obama wins the democratic nomination, most likely he will lose the big contest against McCain.
But if Clinton wins the democratic nomination, she most likely would beat McCain, and right now thats who we need to side with. Democrats need to form together and side with the best possible threat to John McCain.
I personally wanted Edwards to win, so im not picking favorites between Obama and Clinton.
If American wants a Democrat in the white house come next year! Vote Hillary Clinton
But if Clinton wins the democratic nomination, she most likely would beat McCain, and right now thats who we need to side with.
That’s pretty funny. At this point in time, given McCain’s close ties to bush’s policies either candidate would beat McCain… but, nice try.
The only way that Hillary can win is if she goes very negative to hurt Obama so badly that he will loose in November. I hope she does not take that route.
If Hillary wins the nomination (not likely) she will not win the general because too many voters (republicans and democrats) will vote against her and for Mccain or will not vote at all. Obama has the best chance to beat Mccain in the general no question about it. He has inspired and brings to the process thousands of new voters. Obama can win (hands down).
Hillary is part of the old same kind of politics that a lot of people are so tired of.
Her cabinet is composed by the same old people from Bill’s and frankly who wants that.
We need a breath of fresh air and Hillary can not provide that. The Clinton’s were in the white house for 8 years I think that’s enough. Same thing for the Bush family enough is enough… This is America let someone new take over and provide a new direction.
I am all for trying something new. Obama is terrific.
Change is inevitable. Those who are able to adapt to change are clearly those who are better equipped for success. BUT, I’m sorry - while Obama might be charismatic and has a nice smile and calls for change, what will he substantiate his claims with? I am uncomfortable with a nothing more than a junior level senator with questionable associations and an elitist attitude trying to tell America what we need. Both he and his wife say the most inappropriate commentary! Fact is, my family have been solid Democrats for YEARS, but if Obama gets the nomination, I’ll see no choice but to vote McCain in this year’s election as I am fearful of his lack of experience for the job. Plain and simple. I only hope the Democratic party will also see it this way. With Hilary, we’ve got at least a shot.
After George Bush you think Obama has too little experience for the job as President! And you claim to be a Democrat for YEARS. Give me a #### break!
I am a prior Marine, and I was in during the Clinton era. What did Bill Clinton do? I have watched him get off his Helicopter and not salute the Marines Guarding him. I have watched him close Hundreds of military bases and substantially down size our military. I watch him give wave to the NEW NAFTA agreements that pretty much wiped out Detroit.
I have watched the Republicans shoot his wife’s Health Care Proposal down. What experience does she have, she was the President’s wife, not the President. We know her name because of her husband, before then she was and still is a nobody. The folks that were fooled by the Clinton era are retarded and if Blacks (like me) did their homework they would see that. Him saying he was making a better way for us, he almost set us back centuries. She was a Senator 2 years before Obama. Who knew Bill Clinton before he ran for President besides the folks Ar-Kansas. Minorities couldn’t stand him then or now.
This is the same woman who gave this heartfelt speech about Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and how he changed the world with his views and how great it was to have in a part of our history. Yet and still she will condemn Pastor Jeremiah Wright when Dr. Martin Luther King as said far worse things about America (Publicly). The Clintons can lie and steal, hide things from the public, dodge drafts, smoke but not inhale, leave residual stains on women’s clothes, fake real life experiences with just being tired, and have all this experience as President by being his wife. McCain won’t win; he has sealed his own fate with calling for this 100 year occupation in Iraq. If you have not seen the last minute speech he gave April 4, 2008 about being one of the last Senators to vote for the Dr. Martain Luther King holiday sealed his fate in the southern states. He was booed out the state. Clinton fans wake up, smell the coffee. My bad you’re awake you just didn’t inhale.