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A Reader Called Me Un-American

September 8, 2009

Moments  ago a reader left this nugget in the comment section of my blog.

Well it could be that Americans – there are a few of us left – unlike Liberals…

To that I reply with the following.

I am old enough to recall a time….not so long ago….when differing ideas did not make you Un-American. It might make you ‘wrong’, but we were still all the same as countrymen. It is your vile comment posted here that strikes to the heart of what is wrong in the nation today, and the cause of so much discord.

I am also old enough to know of the HUAC. You seem to have no regard for the way this country was constructed, or the path that has led us to this point. I suggest you read the letters between Adams and Jefferson (which I did this summer) and commit yourself to a firmer grasp of our common bonds as citizens.

You can slam my views, but you should be ashamed of the tactic you displayed in your comment. I thought higher of you.

7 Comments
  1. September 9, 2009 6:25 AM

    Nicely quoted out of context – and you are insulted by my “tactics?”

    Care to read Adams’ response?

    DEAR SIR
    Yesterday, at Boston, I received your friendly Letter of July 17th. with great
    pleasure. I give full credit to your relation of the manner in which your note was written and prefixed to the Philadelphia edition of Mr. Paines pamphlet on the rights of Man: but the misconduct of the person, who committed this breach of your confidence, by making it publik, whatever were his intentions, has sown the Seeds of more evils, than he can ever attone for. The Pamphlet, with your name, to so striking a recommendation to it, was not only industriously propogated in New York and Boston; but, that the recommendation might be known to every one, was reprinted with great care in the Newspapers, and was generally considered as a direct and open personal attack upon me, by countenancing the false interpretation of my Writings as favouring the Introduction of hereditary Monarchy and Aristocracy into this Country. The Question every where was,
    What Heresies are intended by the Secretary of State5? […]

    You observe ‘”That You and I differ in our Ideas of the best form of Government
    is well known to us both.” But, my dear Sir, you will give me leave to say, that I do not know this. I know not what your Idea is of the best form of Government. You and I have never had a serious conversation together that I can recollect concerning the nature of Government. The very transient hints that have ever passed between Us have been jocular and superficial, without ever coming to any explanation. If You suppose that I have or ever had a design or desire, of attempting to introduce a Government of King, Lords and Commons […] you are wholly mistaken. […]

    I must own to you that the daring Traits of Ambition and Intrigue, and those
    unbridled Rivalries which have already appeared, are the most melancholly and alarming Symptoms that I have ever seen in this Country: and if they are to be encouraged to proceed in their Course, the sooner I am relieved from Competition the happier I shall be.

    So Jefferson spoke is mind and it reached the public. His letter to Adams was nothing but an attempt to cover for his opinion. 😉

    For myself, I do not hid so nor apologize for my beliefs and my love of a country that the Liberals wish to “rebuild.”

  2. September 8, 2009 8:43 PM

    What a different tone this letter was………

    Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, July 17, 1791
    Excerpted from The Adams-Jefferson Letters, pages 245–247
    P[h]iladelphia July 17. 1791
    DEAR SIR
    I have a dozen times taken up my pen to write to you and as often laid it down
    again, suspended between opposing considerations. I determine however to write from a
    conviction that truth, between candid minds, can never do harm.
    […] That you and I differ in our ideas of the best form of government is well
    known to us both: but we have differed as friends should do, respecting the purity of each
    other’s motives,…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….

  3. Jason permalink
    September 8, 2009 8:23 PM

    The Mormons think they are the only ones going to heaven and the conservatives think they are the only ones with the proper views on the role of government in our nation. Deke, you should know this!

    I loved your response to this comment, and want you to know that there is much to be said for the Adams/Jefferson comment you made. The fact you mentioned it shows your background and understanding. Good job!

  4. Arnie permalink
    September 8, 2009 8:14 PM

    Epithets, like the the un-American term, says more about the person hurling it than it does about the object of disapproval.

  5. September 8, 2009 7:11 PM

    No, not exactly. I’m saying that, since you have a belief-set that this inimical to American values that you and anyone else that thinks as you do is un-American.

    And no, it’s not above my pay-grade as an American to make that pronouncement. That you think so is further evidence of your difference from an American.

  6. September 8, 2009 5:26 PM

    So when I have a differing opinion and thought than you that makes me un-American?

    I really find that unsulting.

    And you are also calling the millions who hold the same idea as me on the matter of the Matthew Shepard Act also un-American.

    Might I suggest you are not at the pay grade to make such sweeping pronoucements.

  7. September 8, 2009 4:37 PM

    You’re the one calling for the enactment of Thought Crimes legislative, passionately calling for that. Since such things are the antithesis of American freedom and you support them, what other opinion should I hold?

    Funny you should mention HUAC though; Hate Crimes laws have a striking resemblance to McCarthy’s efforts, since the HUAC – and McCarthy’s similar efforts in the Senate – relied on motive as much as action for condemnations.

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