Driving On Madison Beltline At Rush Hour To Get More Interesting

This in one word is crazy. Make that three words.  Bat-Crap Crazy!

We have lost common sense and rational thought in Wisconsin.  We have allowed the most partisan to wield power and to impact all of the state.  No one can honestly state that allowing guns to be dealt with in this matter is wise, or needed.

There are those who will defend at every turn the Second Amendment, and cry out loud for all to hear when any ‘infringement’ on ‘their right’ is suggested.  But at the end of the day a logical and reasoned assessment about how gun policy has morphed into sheer madness in the state will show what a colossal mistake has been made.

Last evening I picked up a pizza near closing time at a shop where the owners came from Europe.  We chatted about a number of things as the pizza was created and baked.  When it came to the topic of guns and placing a sign on the door of their establishment to not allow concealed carry on the premises, it was made known to me that it will take a horrible event to show the outrageousness of this concealed carry policy.

I fear they are right.

Wisconsin’s concealed carry law goes into effect Nov. 1, and it not only changes how guns are carried on a person, it also changes the way guns can be transported. 

Currently, guns transported in a car must be in a case, unloaded and out
of reach. Next week when the new law goes into effect, guns can be loaded,
outside of a case and on a car seat — all without a permit. 

“If you don’t want to seek out a concealed carry permit, you’ll still be
allowed to carry a firearm, loaded, in plain view,” said Dane County Sheriff
Dave Mahoney. 

The weapon cannot be within reach, so it couldn’t be on a dashboard but
it could be on a back seat. A person will still need a permit if they hide a
weapon on their body or in their car. 

Mahoney said anyone with a gun in their car should alert police
immediately if they are pulled over to avoid any possible conflict or

6 thoughts on “Driving On Madison Beltline At Rush Hour To Get More Interesting

  1. Steve Adams

    Interesting how you tie driving on the beltway to guns and pizza’s… I can’t imagine how you will ever be able to console yourself when all the doom and gloom that is predicted after November 1 fails to take place.. All those concerns and fears that are so unfounded. It’s amazing how the crime rate (and the use of firearms in the commission of crimes) went down as various states passed concealed carry laws. I would like to think that Wisconsin will not be the first state to break that remarkable downward spiral of crime. You do realize I hope, that responsible firearm owners will still be responsible firearm owners – and the bat-crap crazy (Your technical term by the way) irresponsible criminals will continue to be bat-crap crazy irresponsible criminals… that is… until they try their bat-crap crazy out on a responsible concealed carry, law abiding member of society… who deals properly with the situation………

    Concealed carry permit holders in this state are called “Good Guys”. I would hope that it would become so in my home state.

    American by Birth (In Wisconsin) – Alaskan by Choice.

  2. Steve,

    The problem is, (and it is one by design), that there are too few ways to track stats with regards to concealed carry. As the Wisconsin State Journal noted this week in an editorial the nation is lax on the ability to get solid information. One of the reasons is that the NRA in state after state worked to make sure stats were not a part of the concealed carry law. This has been a long-time concern for many who feel as I do about this matter.


    Nebraska, for example, started issuing concealed handgun permits five years ago. But the state has no database or list of incidents involving people with permits, the Lincoln Journal Star reported last week. That leaves the public and policymakers with little to go on beyond anecdotal evidence, which provides only a fuzzy picture.

    The Lincoln Journal Star could find only one incident over five years in which a concealed gun prevented a crime in Nebraska. An Omaha man shot and killed an armed would-be robber at a drug store in 2010, according to the newspaper.

    But there’s a catch. The Omaha man didn’t have a permit to carry a concealed handgun.

    At the same time, the Lincoln newspaper could not find in the state’s online court record system any case in which a concealed handgun permit was revoked. The newspaper reported that the number of active permits was 15,432, while 189 applications for permits were denied.

    A Lincoln police chief told the newspaper he thinks “a fair number of people” feel more nervous than safe if they notice a partially concealed handgun on someone near them in public.

    Wisconsin should do a better job of gauging how its new law plays out. Gun owners understandably have privacy concerns. Yet the number of permits, violations, revocations and incidents involving concealed weapons should be readily available to better inform state decisions that come after Nov. 1.

    Read more: http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/opinion/editorial/article_9088066a-fc38-11e0-b486-001cc4c03286.html#ixzz1c1NDeziH

  3. Jenny

    From the article: “Mahoney said anyone with a gun in their car should alert police
    immediately if they are pulled over to avoid any possible conflict or

    Now that is just ASKING for trouble & miscommunication.

    I can hear it now: “Officer, I have a gun!” Hmm…what do you think would go through the police officer’s head right then?

  4. i have talked with local police and know they are concerned about the whole concept of concealed carry. They have enough issues to be wary of anyway, and then to add this to the mix is really putting more of these brave men and women in harm’s way.

  5. Bev

    Wait, did I miss something? The title is about the Beltline and the story is about concealed carry. Did two stories get mixed up here or is my computer acting up again?

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